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Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 150	Posted - 2015.05.21 20:09:33 - [1] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Because both the drones and the hulls are problems, and the solutions will involve ongoing changes to both. Because the geddon, rattle, and drone proteus are causing sooo many problems right now. Let's not even talk about these non-stop nestor fleets.... Battleship class is a dieing species. And only those that use sentry drones are in more or less adequate shape. Armageddon is more a support ship, yet it sports a solid punch - compare it to Scorpion. Rattlesnake is a really tough thing, shredding everything in close through middle to long range, and only ultra-long setups can beat it... cannot say the same for Nightmare. Nestor is good, but too damn expensive - twice as much as Machariel. And drone Proteus? Are you kidding?
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 150	Posted - 2015.05.21 20:17:08 - [2] - Quote Brashar Bheskagor wrote: Provi block are also using those ishtars for example against ncdot but sometime we lose those battles against t3 cruisers with carrier logi. we dont cry about that but we change ships and kill... Let's see what you say when they start dropping slowcats. And they will.
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 151	Posted - 2015.05.28 10:24:33 - [3] - Quote Tamer wrote: Dear CCP. That fix do nothing. The only one thing you can do to nerf OP drone formats. Add signature radius and/or reduce HP of drones. 1-2 bombs to kill drones, will be great. Shield Ishtar has 60k EHP. Its drones in drone bay have 120k EHP combined. CCP, why?
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 151	Posted - 2015.05.28 20:23:32 - [4] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: I love how in the "we're nerfing sentry drones" thread all the talk is about ishtars and how overpowered they are and not the actual drone nerf. I would like to see James Baboli's question answered by ccp. Me too. I'd like to know if heavy drones are considered balanced by CCP and if yes - why sentry drones are so much tougher? What if we swap EHP of those - will EVE die on the next day?
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 152	Posted - 2015.06.02 05:48:39 - [5] - Quote DEFANDER wrote: Sentries: even do they more or less damage / tracking / range - THEY ARE DESTROYABLE... Guns, guns, guns: even do they require pg and cpu to fit, more or less cap to use - THEY ARE NOT DESTROYABLE The funny part is - it's easier to destroy guns with the ship itself, than the drones. Ishtar has about 60k EHP. How much do you think its drones have? Well... TWICE as much.
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 152	Posted - 2015.06.02 07:33:24 - [6] - Quote DEFANDER wrote: Sentries are OK the way they are now. No, I dont think so. People give the example of Dominix as a very good, balanced ship. Indeed, it is good and balanced. But its balance equation is weird: OP sentry drones are mounted on top of a mediocre hull that is T1 battleship. Did you know the battleships are **** in the current meta? Well they are. When was the last time you've seen the fleet of mighty Abaddons? Or unbeatable Mael/Rokh alpha fleet? Navy Apocs see some use, because they are the hard counter to Ishtars, but are weak otherwise. Even Machariel - the dream ship of many for years - can do nothing in the world of cruisers online and thus see not much use despite being dirt-cheap.
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 152	Posted - 2015.06.02 10:48:35 - [7] - Quote Louanne Barros wrote: Skia Aumer wrote: Ishtar has about 60k EHP. How much do you think its drones have? Well... TWICE as much. Very much worse damage resists, however, with no way to improve them. EHP means "effective hit points", resists are included.
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 154	Posted - 2015.06.02 13:10:08 - [8] - Quote afkalt wrote: you scoop the abandoned ones to replace your own What if you could scoop any sentry drone? That would be fun. Edit: I mean even if they are not abandoned.
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 154	Posted - 2015.06.02 16:46:24 - [9] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Skia Aumer wrote: What if you could scoop any sentry drone? That would be fun. Edit: I mean even if they are not abandoned. Introducing a stupid mechanic is not the way to fix balance issue. If you have enough people to scoop the drones without gettign wrecked, you might as well put them in Ishtars and kill your enemy... Well you are stupid, and my mechanics is uber. I might better melt my enemy with mega pulse lazors. And what I would do NEVER is to take command of a ship named after the pagan goddess - Ishtar! Amarr victor! Burn the heretics! All hail the Imperium! On a serious note, you dont have any proofs that suggested mechanics is more stupid than sentry drones themselves. CCP claims that their stats are so hilarious by design because they have the tradeoff by being destructable. But in real combat situation, killing drones is among the most re_tarded ideas you can come up with. One solution would be to reduce their hit points considerably. But hey! why dont we just use the popular ~enthosis~ technology to hack them off the host instead of grinding through useless ehp?
Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 155	Posted - 2015.06.03 07:30:29 - [10] - Quote Teebeutel wrote: The whole issue with drone balance stems from the way drone size progresses up the ship hierarchy... I see this statement repeated numerous times: "Battleship-sized weapon on cruiser is a no-no!" This explains very clearly why we see Ishtars everywhere fit heavy drones. Oh wait... And of course mounting BS-sized guns on a frigate would yield such a monstrous omgpwnmobile! Hopefully CCP would never do that.

Skia Aumer Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance 155	Posted - 2015.06.03 09:54:44 - [11] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Skia Aumer wrote: What if you could scoop any sentry drone? That would be fun. Edit: I mean even if they are not abandoned. Scooping active and firing sentry drones inside your hull thus bypassing shields and armour would probably not be the most sensible thing to do. But enthosis! Mike Voidstar wrote: Skia Aumer wrote: And of course mounting BS-sized guns on a frigate would yield such a monstrous omgpwnmobile it will tear the fabric of space-time! Hopefully CCP would never do that. Technically you could do that with the Tristan and it's siblings using a single sentry or heavy drone. You don't see that too often though. I was reffering to stealth bombers, guess I did it too stealth...

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